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Committed To Success
From Accountant to Emmy Winner: Joelle Gargiulo's Journey and the Art of Storytelling
What happens when an accountant with a stable career decides to pursue her dream of working in television? Join us as the extraordinary Joelle Gargiulo, a multi-Emmy winning reporter and producer, shares her inspiring journey from crunching numbers to captivating audiences on screen. Growing up in a hardworking family, Joelle initially chose a secure path to support her loved ones, but her passion for TV never faded. Learn how she made the bold leap to follow her dreams and what it taught her about resilience, fearlessness, and staying true to oneself.
Storytelling isn't just an art; it's a powerful tool for building a brand that people trust and love. This episode of "Committed to Success" dissects how crafting an authentic narrative—complete with all its ups and downs—can set your brand apart. We discuss the crucial blend of professionalism, empathy, and humility in storytelling and the ways it can create a lasting connection with your audience. Plus, we explore how the internet has revolutionized career opportunities, making it possible for anyone to monetize their unique skills and redefine success on their own terms.
Setting boundaries is more than just a practice; it’s a necessity, especially for women in the workplace. Joelle and I dive deep into the transformative power of saying no and maintaining a healthy work-life balance. We also discuss the art of genuine interviewing, drawing from personal experiences and insights, including a memorable encounter with Oprah. Don’t miss Joelle’s favorite power songs and quotes that fuel her drive. Tune in for these invaluable lessons and motivational stories that can inspire your own path to success.
Are you looking for a blueprint to help you find your lane in success? There is no one blueprint and everyone's journey is different, but by listening to the stories of others, you can and will find your own lane. This podcast is dedicated to helping you find your unique version of success and will arm you with enough information that you can cherry-pick what works for you. You'll hear interviews of some of your favorite people and learn from their expertise in their respected fields. Everyone has the ability to be successful, and your host, chloe Love, will show you how. This is the Committed to Success podcast.
Cloé Luv:Welcome my Clovers to another episode of Committed to Success with your girl, . Today we have an amazing guest, joelle Gargiulo, who is a multi-Emmy winning reporter and producer, mom, wife, entrepreneur and just all out fabulous and glam encompassed. But before we get to Joelle, I'd like to talk to you guys one-on-one and give you guys some insight on the topic at hand storytelling and the importance of storytelling. That's one of the things. So storytelling is basically what your brand is about, what you're about, what makes you unique, what people are going to love about you or the product that you're putting out. Everything has a story right.
Cloé Luv:So if you created a product, how did that come to be? What makes this product different from everyone else's product? What experience am I going to have when I come in contact with this product? And even when you're making your own story, what are the cons? When it comes to this product, it's always good. I started off with I was going to be a lawyer, so I'm very big on negligence, and negligence is a big thing when it comes to law, and that's to be able to foresee something that is going to happen, that you should have known was going to happen and prepared for. So when launching any service or product. You want to make sure that you do that due diligence what are the pros, but also what are the cons, so that you can formulate some type of response or fix it even before you put it out. Some things are fixable, some aren't, but you want to make sure that you're aware of those things to be able to answer for it, to tell the story behind it, to be able to fix it if you can, like I said. So, storytelling, you know, or even telling the story of how you came in contact with whatever that con was and how you addressed it to make it better for the people. So all of that is a part of storytelling which is very important to your brand, because that will make or break you, that is how people see you and that's what's going to make people decide before they even buy something or if they want to even try them. So make sure that you do that due diligence in what I call brand morphing mapping out that story, making sure that that story is on point and that it's very specific and detailed in both the good and the bad, because you want to keep revamping that and making it better and better.
Cloé Luv:Right, we're going to talk about what makes for a good interview. Well, those unique aspects of what I just said makes for a good interview. When I interview with people, I tell them the things that you know most people won't. As you guys know, I don't really just go on just the good parts or just talk about just all the good things. I prepare people for what the process is going to be, but I also let you know what the reward is. The process is going to be, but I'll also let you know what the reward is. So I give a lot of answers that I think shock people and I always authentically, like from my heart, say what I think or I feel. Now there is a time and place for everything Some things you should keep to yourself, but if they're not the nicest things or if they don't align with what's going on. So you got to know how to distinguish that on when you should say something and when you shouldn't say something.
Cloé Luv:And it doesn't mean that you're being fake because my brand is really, you know about being real. It doesn't mean that you're being fake because you know time and place and when not to say something or when not to bring something up. It just means that you have koof and on our road to success and being committed to success, you have to know how to embody those things and how to show up. That way. No one wants to work with someone or to be a part of a brand that doesn't understand professionalism, that doesn't understand just the basic social skills of how to interact. So you got to make sure that, even in your storytelling, that you're saying things that are not offensive, that you're saying things that don't put you in a light where you look like you're unempathetic to what others are going through, that you're non-sympathetic to things that are sensitive to other people and that you don't come across as a know-it-all or arrogant or you know any of those things. You can be confident. You can showcase confidence, yes, in your storytelling, but you want to do that also from a place of being humble Because, remember, it's not about how you start, it's how you finish. Right, and with every rise there can be a fall. You never know what's going to happen in life. So stay humble and stay true when it comes to success.
Cloé Luv:I talk about brand integrity all the time. Brand integrity in branding, as you know, is showing up with the same brand promise every time and hitting the nail on the head Every time somebody comes in or most times, because nothing is perfect but for most of the times when people come in contact with your brand, you've lived up to your brand's promise. But your integrity is also what you stand for in your moral compass. So on your road to success, you have to know what that moral compass is. You have to set that foundation, you have to build that wall and know that. Listen, I'm not going to let anybody over this integrity wall because I won't compromise my brand or myself for the success. And success will come to you, even if it seems like if I don't take this deal, if I don't do this thing, it'd just be so easy. I'll. You know I'll. I'll do this bad thing and get what I need and I'll give back to charity and and and and and make it all better, or I'll. I'll do this bad thing and get what I need and I'll give back to charity and make it all better, or I'll go to the church and donate to the church.
Cloé Luv:No, it doesn't work like that, because once you dirtied that integrity, you can't get it back. So remember those things when you're on your journey and this road to success. Remember that you have to keep your integrity together. Remember that you have to also be able to be able to list your own cons and foresee negligence. Remember that you have to also stand out and be unique in your story and authentic to it. And that's my one-on-one with you for now and we're about to take a break and when we come back we'll have the wonderful Joelle Gargiulo. Hello, my Clovers, and welcome to another episode of Committed to Success. We have a special guest today, my friend and yours, joelle Gargiulo, emmy Award winning reporter and producer. Welcome, joelle.
Joelle Garguilo:I mean, I can't even listen to that without falling in love with you a little more. Could you always say my name? She says Joelle. Everybody should be so lucky to have a person like you in their orbit. That's what.
Cloé Luv:I'm going to say Thank you. I feel the same way about you. You're amazing and inspirational, and this episode is very important to me because, as I promised my followers, I will have a lot of their favorite people as well as mine and explain why you're one of my favorite people. The energy that you bring, your authenticness and you're always readily available to give insight to something I think that those are such amazing attributes, especially as well as being a mother, an entrepreneur and just fabulous, so I have to share this fabulousness with people. I got to share this fabulousness with people because I can't keep you all to myself now.
Joelle Garguilo:I just I hear what you just described yourself right Like and I think anybody listening to this or watching this like that that that is you. So you wound up, you were doing a panel and I was on the panel and that was the first time we met and I just remembered being like who is this woman Like? And you glow like, that's the thing. Anybody who knows you has met you in person. They see you in the video. Like you, you actually glow yellow background right now too.
Cloé Luv:Like how she called like well, you're bringing that out in me, you're my twin flame, so you're I mean you're igniting the fire.
Joelle Garguilo:It just every time we talk it's like I don't know, you know, like sometimes you meet people and you feel like you've you've known them, you've known them your whole life. Like I just felt like that with you and it was just an instant, like an instant connection, I guess. And then I got to do a story on you for my show and I just it was like oh, I feel at home, I feel you know. Yes, yes, yes.
Cloé Luv:And we talk about a bunch of crazy things off of camera, as well as taking over the world, which you know is one of my favorite subjects. And speaking about taking over the world, miss, tell the people how you started off. You know, most people think that you wake up today and you realize your dream and you go straight into it. Or if you start off in one field, you have to stay there. But your story is very special. Tell the people where you started off and how you started off.
Joelle Garguilo:Oh, my gosh, it's like right, like where does it? It's? It's kind of crazy, like I always I'm the one who's always asking these questions, right, and I and I and I know from being on the other end you often like you need a short, tidy answer and I don't know how to do that when it comes to me, so I apologize.
Cloé Luv:Um, don't apologize, we need all that info.
Joelle Garguilo:Yeah, so, so, okay, so, so, today. So where am I just today? So I, this is something that's. It has never been natural for me to um, like I don't want, I don't, I don't want to use the word brag, but like it's, it doesn't come easy for me to be like I this, I that, but I'm working on that. So I will just say like, yes, I won my second emmy this year for my recording. So, yeah, I am a reporter I'm a producer.
Joelle Garguilo:I've, uh, worked for the today show, I've worked for nbc new york. I now I'm doing things for myself as well and I um, you know you could catch me on TV every day, sometimes on the weekends as well. So, like, like, professionally right, two time Emmy Award winning reporter and producer Great. So, where did we start, like, if we're going to go professional wise, I started as an accountant, yes, yes, that's what I want people to know.
Joelle Garguilo:Yes, we started as an accountant, yes, in finance. So ridiculous, right like I think. When I was little, I, oh, I always wanted to. I'm gonna, I'm just gonna fucking say it. Can we curse on here? Is this like?
Cloé Luv:yeah, this is this, is it. It's a safe space.
Joelle Garguilo:So I I always wanted to be on tv and I think once you work in tv you can't be like I want to be on tv.
Joelle Garguilo:You have to be like I don't want to go chase that. No, I wanted to be that. I always wanted to, but I never. I never really said it out loud because you know, like, growing up, my mom, my mom, stayed at home with us. My, my dad was a lawyer. My dad worked really, really hard. Like I didn't come from a family, like we didn't have a lot, like my dad came from like working class. You know parents, my mom and my pop, those were the best people under the sun. Man Like they, you know, came from Italy, went to Brooklyn, went out to long Island. These people were like I don't know, they were so ahead of their time Like I always wondered what they would have done if they were born present day, like you know, but so anyway.
Joelle Garguilo:So my dad came from a family of bakers, like they worked in the baking business, but you know I grew up like watching my dad work so hard. So in my head it was like you need to do the thing that you're good at, that can make money.
Joelle Garguilo:So I was really good at math, Like math was my jam, and so I I just I would tell everybody I'm going to school to be an accountant and they'd all be like, well, like you know, like I, actually I was very shy when I was a kid. I didn't really speak for many years and then I came out of my shell eventually, but I wanted to go to school to be an accountant. So I wanted to go to NYU, but my dad was paying for my older sister to go to an expensive college and I saw it like, really like destroying him.
Joelle Garguilo:Oh wow, yeah, like I. You know, because we're like my family's real old school, so they didn't know to look for loans or to do things like that. Yeah, like they're, like they have like an old school school or like, I think, the way that my dad was brought up by his family. You don't ask people for anything like you know, like you could be on the street, but you still don't ask for anything like absolutely ask, like it's out there.
Cloé Luv:You know, yeah, right, ask, and you shall receive.
Joelle Garguilo:Yeah, like it's out there, but um I so I don't want to do that to him. So I wound up going to Albany because I got a grant. Like my college was nothing. Like four years of my college was nothing.
Joelle Garguilo:Uh no, I mean. I mean now I'm like what would it cost to got it? Hopefully by the time our kids are in college, college will be free, but like I don't even know what college costs today. So I went to Albany and I started as an accounting major and I changed my major second semester, junior year to marketing and finance, so graduated from Albany with a degree in marketing finance. My now husband, who was my boyfriend then, we met in Albany, so he graduated with a finance degree. So I was like, get it my mom hopefully my mom won't listen to this, she'll kill me. So then my parents had found out about this job at KPMG and they told my husband my then boyfriend about it Chris, my husband and they didn't tell me about it and I remember being like wait, what? So he wound up getting the job.
Joelle Garguilo:But he wound up getting the job in the finance department. So, me being me, I was like I'm going to get a job there and I'm going to do it on my own, because for me.
Joelle Garguilo:It's like the best way to get me to do something is to tell me that I can't. So I went back to school. I finished my accounting degree in a year. While I was working, got a job interview with KPMG on my own and I wound up going for the interview and I got the job. So I was at KPMG as an auditor one of the big four accounting firms for a few years. I made the decision that I was going to leave. I took three days off. I interviewed with seven companies in three days. I got all seven jobs. Like, of course, you know what it is. It's like you, like personality will take you places.
Joelle Garguilo:It's like you know I was probably like not the best fit for any of these jobs, but I but. But you know you like you hire who you want to work with. So I went and working at new line cinema and I took a job in the finance department. So it was a team of women actually, which I thought was baller. So I was one of five females on this finance team and I was there for a couple of years and then all of a sudden there were rumors that the company was going to go under. So New Line was owned by Warner Brothers and I'll never forget like somebody from Warner Brothers came in to talk to us and you know they were talking about what might happen, but we should all just, you know, work as usual. And blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I and I was like are you keeping this New York office, this, this physical space? And they were like no. And I said, are you going to expand the Warner Brothers office for new line employees? And they said no.
Joelle Garguilo:And I was like okay, the writing's on the wall, we're all going to get laid off. So we all got laid off. But because of that I got a severance package and that was the first time in my life, Cloé. I was like it is time to invest in me. I've never done that and I remember cause we were engaged at that time my husband's new room. Um, and I, and I remember my husband, I always wanted to do this TV thing and I told it to my boss.
Joelle Garguilo:then she took me out to lunch and was like what do you want to do? And I was like I want to try to do this TV thing. And she was the first person to say to me I think that would be great, I think you would be great. Everybody else was like you can't do that, you'll never do it. Nobody ever makes it, cause it's different. It's different now with, like the internet and like back then it was like you had ABC, nbc, cbs, like you know, like CNN, msnbc. Those things weren't even really like a thing yet. Um, so you had there. There really were very few places where you had an option. So because I got that severance package, I remember there was also like not job placement, but you can go talk to somebody as part of the package. And I told them what I wanted to do and then they recommended this course at the New York Film Academy.
Cloé Luv:So, yeah.
Joelle Garguilo:So I wound up taking on-air classes at NYU and then I signed up for the New York Film Academy and they had this thing called digital journalism. And then I signed up for the New York film Academy and they had this thing called digital journalism and like nobody was talking about it. It wasn't a thing then. So that was learning how to, you know, not just do the like hey stuff, but the producing, the editing, all of it. So instead of hiring five people, you could hire one person.
Joelle Garguilo:So first day I like fell in love with it. And then, until we had the technical stuff and they were like okay, take the tripod out. And I'm looking at this tripod, like what do we do with this? And I was like really discouraged, but I stayed with it. So originally I signed up for four weeks, I extended it for eight weeks, took out a loan I'm still paying off and then I wound up doing the full year paying off. And then I wound up doing the full year and at the end of the school, year I got a job interview with NBC.
Joelle Garguilo:So I either go and take the final part of my CPA exam I had three parts passed and I needed to take the fourth or go do my my real, which we now think of like Instagram reels, that's like back then, that's like a video resume. Yeah, so I did not study for the CPA exam at all and instead I focused on doing this and I wound up getting the job with this little group called NBC mobile, where we made videos for cell phones before anybody even had an iPhone. And then I like I essentially just hustled, I hustled.
Cloé Luv:But let me, let me ask you a question, because that's an amazing decision or story. What gave you the gall to choose? Because this is what you call a real road, like a fork in the road right and a lot of people hit there and they go to the safer bed.
Cloé Luv:It would have obviously been the safer thing to take the CPA in something that you have that experience in and that is, in most cases, more tangible to most people. What gave you the goal, the confidence, um, or that, that thing that lets you know it was okay not to play it safe and move forward? What? What was that indicator that you, you heard, that you listened to?
Joelle Garguilo:I wish it was something I had more of. Now, if I'm being honest, yeah. It was. You know it's like it's so cliche when, when people talk about what goes on in your head, right.
Cloé Luv:Yeah.
Joelle Garguilo:I just I knew I was going to do it and it was like, don't tell me I can't do it, I'm going to do it. I just knew it. I, I knew it and everybody around me told I was like no, this is what I'm gonna do and this is what I'm gonna be. And I just did it like. And even I remember when I first started at NBC, though like I don't, I hate it when people are like the balls, like because let's just like the ovaries that I had.
Cloé Luv:But yeah, right, right. I said the ball, yeah, yeah, exactly, you know what I mean.
Joelle Garguilo:Like right, like the, the like I was. I remember, like Katie Couric said she was leaving and I was like that would be my job, like, and my boss was like you think you're going to get that job? And I was like, yeah, like.
Cloé Luv:I there was no fear.
Joelle Garguilo:There was no fear, like it's just believing in yourself and there is something to be said about that, and like I should listen to what I'm saying right now because I it's, just it's. And also I didn't have kids, I didn't own anything. So you know, I was a renter and I didn't have anybody else to worry about, and I do. I think that that you know that plays into it Like financially, I got this, I was, I was okay for a little bit, so I could try. And what was the worst thing that would happen? I would fail, but at least I would try and I feel like I'm trying to get sick of the.
Joelle Garguilo:You know, like we just kind of live under other people's rules. Like, why do we do that? You're not like that. When you're a little kid, think about your kid, right. When you think about your kids, like they, what do you want to be? They don't care.
Cloé Luv:They don't care, go with it.
Joelle Garguilo:Right. So like, why can't we all go back to that, like we're so concerned about everything and this and that, and what if, blah, blah, blah, like ethic, just try, it's free to try. This girl used to work with crystal. She would always say to crystal champagne, she would always say to me she'd be like closed mouth, don't get fed. Yeah, no, like. So I'm, and I and I kind of have gone, I like regressed a little bit throughout the years and I feel like I'm finally getting that person back where it's like just try.
Cloé Luv:Well, you just got to remember that girl that walked away from a promising career in finance to become a double Emmy award winning reporter and producer. So it's not there's no question and doubt of what you can do. It's just remembering how you did it and that when there was doubt.
Joelle Garguilo:yeah that's it, but you're your own example.
Cloé Luv:You know, and that's the best example, you don't even have to go to someone else's story. You are that story. You understand what I'm saying. You are that go-to story for other people. You are that inspiration. So you have to tap into that and remember listen, I'm that story that they're telling people when they think they can't do it so I gotta live up to that well, you know, I gotta remember that.
Joelle Garguilo:That's me in there do we hold on a second? I need something. Don't go anywhere no problem because that was just like, that was some profound shit right there. Oh, my god, like how I feel about you, baby girl, you know how I feel like I need to.
Cloé Luv:Um, don't miss. Encompassed.
Joelle Garguilo:Yeah, encompassed need to like. Somebody said like when. When you were, you told me this when you receive like yeah yeah yeah, yeah, you are that inspiration story for people.
Cloé Luv:You are that go-to story when people think that they have to change, take the safe route and what, what, believing in yourself how that pays off. So, yeah, you just gotta tap back into that and sometimes responsibilities such as, uh, being a wife, being a mother, like you said, taking on a mortgage and having to keep up those things Sometimes it makes you feel like you got to go with the safer route because you have all these responsibilities, but you continue to bet on you and understood that you is what got you to those things, you is what got you to the mortgage, you is what got you to being an amazing mother and a wife.
Joelle Garguilo:So, if you allow you to continue to work, yeah, and don't you think it's kind of exciting where we are right now, where, like like back in the day but back in the day means 10 years ago like you couldn't you know, like I don't know, things were so different. So now, like everybody has a special skill and I realized, like monetizable, and that's not something I ever realized before, Like I always used to think the way that you needed to work, it was like a very traditional traditional way.
Joelle Garguilo:And it's not like the internet has democratized everything and like I just want people I don't know, like I genuinely want people to shine, like I don't want anybody to go through life being like what if I? I wish I would have that. I wish I would have that like regrets and doubts. Yeah, Cry, try, like, but also do it for you. Because when we do things for other people and it's like, you know, like what is it, when things finally click and it's like, do it, do it for you.
Joelle Garguilo:Like for me with with my job, things finally clicked when I actually went from self to service, if that makes sense, like I think a lot of people when they start, at least in my industry, it's all about like getting your mug on TV or this or that, and like I had a real shift like and I've always been this way. That. And like I had a real shift like and I've always been this way, but like I could see it now where I started to view like my platform as a privilege and how can I use my platform for good like I love the red carpets, I love the celebrity interviews, I love all that stuff.
Joelle Garguilo:But like, like, listen, we have this gift, like I have like, and there are people who deserve to have the spotlight shown on them and I and I, I I don't know if it was conscious, I don't know if it was you know that that happened over the last couple of years and it's been the most rewarding time of my career.
Joelle Garguilo:Like, I love it. Like I love getting to introduce people, you know, like my audience to Chloe Love Cruella, like all of the things you know what I mean. Like I love highlight small businesses that deserve like, why just put somebody on with a big budget who could hire a PR agency? No, like, give it to the mom and pops of New York, give it to those badass people who are out there like doing the grind every day, you know so, um, you know, but, but at the end of the day, like I do stories that that I want to see, right, like I want stories that I think people need to hear, like, so there's that, that click, that kind of happened. I also think I have like a fake eyelash hanging.
Cloé Luv:So, with that being said, I loved how you, you, you, you, you summed that up. What is your definition of success?
Joelle Garguilo:Oh, I don't know, um, I don't know. I really don't know, and I want to give you a good answer.
Cloé Luv:Like what feels natural to you. What do you feel like this would mean success?
Joelle Garguilo:I want to be happy, um I, and to be happy, um I, and I want to like. Listen, you could say the Emmys, but like no, like I want to. I want to use my platform for good. Knowing that I can use my platform for good for like for me, that's as sweet as success could be like. Sure, money would be great. Let's just put out into the universe More money.
Cloé Luv:Please come this way, cause absolutely why you're doing these great things. Cause I want that to be a part of the success.
Joelle Garguilo:And I feel like there were, like when I first got into the workforce, in my accounting and finance days, like I would have defined success by money. I would have, I really would have. I don't anymore, yeah.
Speaker 1:I would have.
Joelle Garguilo:I absolutely would have like. Give me the paycheck, Give me where's my bonus, Where's this, Where's that. But like it has shifted, I love, I guess impact.
Cloé Luv:Yes.
Joelle Garguilo:That's the word that I think about. Yes, I think about like stores I had a hand in saving and like by a store like I'm sure I can be talking about, like this book and toy shop. But it's more than that. It's like this one woman who, like, lived a life of service and never got her due and all of a sudden now like to watch these people whose lives are exponentially better. But these are people who are making other lives better. Like I, I had a little hand in that you know like you know like I had a hand in fulfillment yeah.
Joelle Garguilo:So I think, I think impact and I think really using, using the platform the way I think it should be used for.
Cloé Luv:Well, with that being said, when, when your impact, your paycheck and your, your heart all aligns, what boundaries or sacrifices do you think people should make when it comes to success? Like, where do you think they should draw the line? Oh, I don't know.
Joelle Garguilo:I don't, I don't know, I, I I feel like boundaries are something that haven't always existed in my industry, but like I'm starting to feel them, though, Like for the first time. I feel like, I think I think like even just like not not just women, but I will say women like we've kind of like been able to like stand a little taller. Yeah, right, like all of a sudden I don't know that the energy has shifted in a sense where you're like wait, no, boundaries are important. So if you're texting me at like 11 PM on a Sunday, or at bedtime, or at this or that, for the first time, I will just say hey, you know what I'm doing. Bedtime, I am with my family right now. Like you know, I didn't give you my number, but you're calling me, please email, for like I'm getting better at doing that and I listen.
Joelle Garguilo:I think boundaries are important, right, but like when somebody has said to you oh, you know what, I'm not free right now because you respect it, but you have to like, yeah, there was a time when there were no boundaries. But like I remember when I came back from maternity with my second, first time, I ever said no to something, or actually, yeah, no, the first time I came back with my first, with Gianna, and it was the first time I ever said no like a boss. Then, from the week I was working at the weekend today show and I had just come back, like you know, you have your first child. You don't even know what it's like being back to work and I remember this guy emailed me. He was like hey, we want you to do this turn this piece. Can you shoot it on Saturday after the show for Sunday? And I was like I was supposed to be off on Sunday, like I had you know I'm breastfeeding and I just said no. For the first time I said no.
Cloé Luv:And.
Joelle Garguilo:I remember that, like there is power in no, it's okay to say no. And you know what it feels really good sometimes.
Cloé Luv:Absolutely, absolutely. I completely agree. Those are all great tips and I think people if they embodied that, it would also put a level of respect early in the industry of where people know that they can you know, try you or overstep when it comes to you by setting those foundations.
Joelle Garguilo:Do you feel like, as women, Cloé, that we're always like? Well, I could, but like the nurturing part of us. We're nurturers by nature, so we definitely feel like no and we're the ones who usually sacrifice.
Cloé Luv:Right as mothers is this. So we tend to take that into our jobs and sacrifice our happiness, our, our mental health, our self-care to make sure that we're showing up and and also feeling like we have to show up better because it's it was a man's world. But you know, like you said, as women, we're standing a lot taller and stronger and in our foundation and we're able to say no and then sometimes, hell, no. You know. So that that that's a great, that's a great thing, but with storytelling being a big part of your, your, your, your work and what you do, how important is storytelling to someone's brand? How important is it to the success of your brand?
Joelle Garguilo:I think it's everything right, because it used to be oh hi, what do you do? I this, this, that and that.
Cloé Luv:Now.
Joelle Garguilo:I can't do a story for me as a storyteller on a product, but the story is what sells. The stories will get you in and everybody has a story. That's the beautiful thing. Everybody has a story. And if you're listening to this, if you're watching this and you're like, well, I don't know if I have a story, I think like the biggest gift I could give everybody is separate your what versus your why right.
Joelle Garguilo:What is what you do? But why do you do it? What lights you up about it? Like like that, like your backstory is incredible. So can I do a story on somebody who has opened up this? You know, creation space in Brooklyn? Yeah, maybe, but your story is what gets the bosses, when I pitch it like that, to say yes, because you have an incredible story. Right, like there's only one you there could be. You know hundreds, if not thousands, of spaces similar to yours. There's only one. You like that's that's secret sauce. So your story is your story, is your brand. And again, if you're lost too, I always think it's like a really good thing to say, like, what do you want people to say about you when you leave a room? What do you hope they say about you? So, if you're a little lost, like that's your brand, right, that's your brand.
Cloé Luv:A little lost, like that's your brand, right, that's your brand Absolutely, even a product a product has a story.
Speaker 1:How did?
Cloé Luv:the product come to be. What do you want the product to feel? Right, there's always great storytelling opportunities. Absolutely, absolutely. You I saw on your website you you did an interview with Oprah and you talked about what a good interview was. So tell us what makes a good interview. My God, I mean, can we just-. I've been doing my journalism and digging she's been doing her digging Wait.
Joelle Garguilo:Could we just like take a moment for Oprah? Anytime I feel like somebody says Oprah. I'm like yes, that was incredible. So I was on the red carpet, which, like on a red carpet, every reporter tends to ask similar questions, right? Um? So Oprah came with Steven Spielberg and I remember just coming up with a very thoughtful question. It was like, okay, like what, what can I do to make it about the film but also pertain to them? And then when.
Joelle Garguilo:Oprah went to answer. She was like what do I think? Well, I think you've got it. Like Oprah said I had it and I was like hey, I could retire today. Like I'm good, like I like forget about a resume, I'm just going to send people the clip of Oprah being like you've got it. She said like I could tell that that's an incredibly thoughtful question.
Joelle Garguilo:Usually everybody in this line asks the same thing You've got it, like it was like so what? Like what makes a great question? Uh, listen, a little research goes a long way. Okay, so what? Did you feel a little bit disrespected if somebody wanted to interview you but they didn't do any homework whatsoever. So if you do any homework and you're asking questions that are obvious, that somebody should know, then you're just going to give you're not going to give it all back Right when you see that somebody has done their homework, that they care. And then the other thing is like and I, these are like my secrets, which I really don't give away, but this is with my girl, I will absolutely do that, but like absolutely.
Cloé Luv:I'm committed to success right here. Exclusive.
Joelle Garguilo:But but ask what you really care about, about. I think so often we get stuck in like I should this, I should that, I should ask about this. No, screw it. Like. What do you really care about? Like, what do you really want to know about? Like, when I'm talking with you, I want to know everything about you, like on the surface, I want to know where you got that top, I want to know where you got that chair. But, like I also want to, I want to know, like, what was like a young Cloé, a young Lisa, like growing up, like you know what I mean. So that's what I and I want to know. Also, what do you use on your skin? Because your glow, like you know.
Joelle Garguilo:But like, so, like genuinely you know, and it's all in context with are you asking for yourself? Are you asking for an outlet? Being true to that outlet, being true to yourself? But, like you know and and listen, nobody this people, especially when they're starting off like you ask a question and you don't even listen to the answer Cause you're thinking about yourself and your next thing, like no question.
Joelle Garguilo:Yeah, and it's totally fine to be like when you're going for your next one. Be like I forgot my next question because I was so involved in your answer. Yeah, like, that's fine, we're all human.
Cloé Luv:That's great. So we're coming into our last part of the segment, which is so funny. It's more about you, it's tapping into you. So my background is in music, as you know, so I wanted to put a little bit of entertainment trivia in there. So the first question is name your power song that you go to to give you that drive when you think you can't get through something. Oh my God, this is really knowing you now.
Joelle Garguilo:Oh, shoot, I don't know. Okay, I feel like, oh, that's good. Um, I feel like I always I go back to like early nineties hip hop like, um, oh my God, okay, wait, but there's's, there's a lot of them. I feel like I have a playlist like one, yeah, anything Beyonce, like it depends. But like, let me know, I've been doing this to you know, sound the alarm like, but damn it, but like that, yes, I love it, I love it. I feel like I go back God, that's such a great question Like any Beyonce, for sure, but definitely ring the alarm.
Cloé Luv:Like, I'll just ring the alarm when it's time for you, when you, when you're down and you're out, you're sleeping, ring the alarm and wake you up, get back to you, get right what's yours, what's yours? I have a few Um, but you know, uh, the mucation of Lauryn Hill is something that it's like because I go through so many different changes with people coming from where I came from and evolving into Chloe Love. It's like damn. It's funny how money changes situations.
Speaker 1:Miscommunication leads to complications, my emancipation don't fit your, you know, so it'd be like that sometimes.
Cloé Luv:You know I lost, lost ones is one of those stories I gotta come back to. When you go through things with people and realize that, hey, sometimes people who are not meant to be on your journey, yep, you know, you end up with lost ones but you find great ones like yourself on the way. Yeah, meant to be there, be there. And sometimes you got gotta get rid of the old to bring in the new. Not to call nobody old and say that the friendships didn't matter. But if they were meant to be there and they were about you know your journey with you, they would have been. But if not, then that space has to be open for greatness like yourself to come in and be a part of my life. So I'm okay with that. I'm grateful. She just Chloe dust, she just Chloe dust, she just Chloe dust. Did everybody see that? What's your favorite inspirational movie that drives you Rocky?
Joelle Garguilo:Yes, I would say Rocky, for I don't know like Rocky for it yeah.
Cloé Luv:Yes, and I love boxing.
Joelle Garguilo:That's my favorite sport. And last but not least, what is your favorite quote? Oh, okay, so I think. I don't know if I don't know if this is a JG original, but the one that comes to mind. I always say good things come to those who hustle.
Cloé Luv:Absolutely.
Joelle Garguilo:You know, and. I, I'm sure, I'm sure, I think I feel like there's I've had some wait. Hold on a second. Yeah, you wasn't ready for this.
Cloé Luv:I was I on a second, it's in a gritty right here, right now.
Joelle Garguilo:Good things come to those who hustle, that's mine.
Cloé Luv:I love that. I love that because it aligns with faith without works is dead. So that's one of my well, that's from the Bible, but that's one of the quotes that I really aligned with from the Bible. Faith without works is dead.
Joelle Garguilo:Thank you, jesus, thank you for that Okay. I'm going through. Oh, I love this. Be the reason someone smiles today. These are I like. I write them down and then I put them on, so leave room for magic. This is a pandemic, not a productivity contest. That was a big one. Somebody said this to me. She's like she asked for one and I'm giving like no, I love it.
Cloé Luv:I love it. This gives this gives a lot of inspiration, right. Treat yourself the way you'd want your daughters to be treated. That was. I love that. I love that. I love that For men and women. I love that. Then, ready.
Joelle Garguilo:If your own, if your own story is not inspiring you, it's time to rewrite it.
Cloé Luv:Ooh, yeah, chloe Love going to have to borrow that one, that's. I'm grateful to be here to have heard that, because that's what I'm going to have to start telling some folks.
Joelle Garguilo:Right, right, oh my God, I okay those are, those are, those are the when one door closes your way. Okay, I like it now. Now I'll go down the rabbit hole. Wow, nothing changes. If nothing changes, okay, and then I go back to. It's a pandemic, not a productivity.
Cloé Luv:Yeah, that's an actual important and really really good quote, because that anxiety of oh my God, everything is shutting. It's like, you know, when squirrels try to gather everything for the winter. That's what the pandemic made people feel like I gotta go get all the toilet paper. I gotta, you know, get all these nuts in here, because God knows when we're going to have more. That's where that anxiety is coming from the productivity part.
Joelle Garguilo:But tell me you didn't see people like launching 10 online businesses, speaking now 15 languages, like working out 17 times a day. And then I was legit on the floor, paralyzed from anxiety, at one point where I was like I can't, I like and girl.
Cloé Luv:I was pregnant. So I definitely I was pregnant. I had lost at that time the biggest contract of my career, which was the Bloomberg. Well, we didn't lose them, I must say mayor Bloomberg. Bloomberg kept the contract, but it was supposed to be extended for the full year and that didn't happen due to the pandemic. But he did stay true to the first six months. But there were so many great things in the works that was happening that just boom got shut down and then I had a really, really sick pregnancy. So there was no. There was no productivity. Getting out of bed was productivity if I made it out the room and I think we need to normalize, like that being a productive day.
Joelle Garguilo:Do you know what I mean? Like it got. It got to the point where everybody, everybody had like 10 hustles at once, which is great. But you kind of felt like if you were on the other end of it, like, oh, I don't have, I don't have a, yeah, no, I don't have a, this, I don't have a, that, I'm not, you were like, oh my god, like I lost all my hair. I like all my hair fell out from straight. Like yeah, real, not, I mean not all of it, but like I know how you feel.
Joelle Garguilo:Yeah, yeah like it was just so, just okay. Sometimes I think, and I think that I don't know, do you feel like this happens with age too?
Cloé Luv:like absolutely, absolutely.
Cloé Luv:I feel like it's even more than age wisdom, you know because, some people get old and still stay stagnant in their mentality, but with wisdom and understanding that everything happens for you in its time.
Cloé Luv:So that wasn't your time to launch with 20 million people that was launching. It was for you to get your story together, get your content to stand out and have a unique standpoint, and for you to launch with them with your time and for your voice to be there. And I had to learn that because I did feel like I missed out on a lot of things, but that was also because I couldn't move the way I wanted to, and I'm a person who likes to be doing things. So that was all really great advice, really really great advice. Well, joelle, thank you for coming on and blessing us with your amazingness and your wisdom. We're definitely going to want to have you back and tell the people where they can find you and what you have, you know, coming out that we can look forward to and how they can be on that waiting list for when it launches.
Joelle Garguilo:I love you so much and also like just to keep it real, which I always do. It's like. Then my husband pops in and he's like are you going to go pick up your kid? I have to pick up my daughter in like seven minutes Um okay, so I. But that's the thing. It's like the like, the hustle is real. The hustle is real, it really is.
Joelle Garguilo:So, um, ig is my jam. Joelle Gargiulo, j O E L L E G A R G U I L O, um, g-a-r-g-u-i-l-o, so like. Ig is really where you could keep up with me the most. I post a lot of things about my personal life, but also projects I'm working on for work, and I have a couple of really excited things coming up. I'm going to put this out into the universe. What I'm really trying to do is a confidence on camera, downloadable course. That's going to be like my Q1, q2. I really want to do that.
Cloé Luv:So many people come to me with these questions and I and I I try to give everybody my time, but like we need the course, because sometimes you get an answer, you need to be able to go back to it and, as you said, now that we're in a digital world, camera doesn't just mean on NBC, it's on camera.
Joelle Garguilo:So this is something that a lot of people can benefit from. Yeah, yeah, thank you, I love you.
Cloé Luv:I love you so much. I'll be sending out that email blast as well.
Joelle Garguilo:Everybody needs a soul inner corner.
Cloé Luv:Oh, my God.
Joelle Garguilo:Give me, give me a hug. Give me a hug. Give me a hug, just like through there. I adore you, or I got to go get my kid.
Cloé Luv:I love you All right, go get the baby kisser for me. Love you. Goodbye, my girl. All right, have a good one. Stay tuned. There's more show after this break. Hello, my Clovers and we are back from that break.
Cloé Luv:What an amazing interview. You know this episode was so much fun, which I know you guys seen. I love interviewing people that I know and I just know that are great and that I'm bringing that quality to you guys. I'm bringing that, that creme de la creme information of people who are really out here doing it, not faking it. Some of the jewels that I want to make sure that you guys got from this episode was setting those boundaries which I mentioned in the intro, but sometimes people mention things and they don't really roll out what that looks like for you. Joelle gave such great tips on some of the boundaries that you should be setting when you're starting off in your career in your respective fields. A lot of the times you feel like you have to say yes to everything. You pick up the phone past business hours, you're showing up on days that you're not supposed to, you're doing extra work that you're not being paid for and, yes, you do pay your due diligence and some people call them paying your dues, but also respectfully within some type of boundaries for yourself, because later on in life you will gain more respect, you will have better self-care, you'll have better mental health and you won't burn out as fast because you're reserving that right to say, hey, this is not what I signed up for, because success isn't just about the money or the opportunity, it's when all things come full circle. So I thought that was such great advice. Joelle started off in accounting and finance.
Cloé Luv:One of the stories that I want to share with you guys is about my delivering doctor. This was a funny story. This doctor was so good I went back to the hospital so he could deliver my second child. As I was speaking to him after the delivery and got to know him a little better, he started off in hospitality. He was in the hotel business for, I want to say, 20 years, if I can remember properly, before he decided to follow his dream and going back to being a doctor. It's never too late to follow your dream and you can start off very professional, but when you know you have a knack or a talent for something or a yearn for it, give yourself that chance. If that man had never decided to go into medicine. I don't even know how that delivery would have been with my first child and I always think about that. Thank God, he decided to say you know, I had fun in hospitality, I liked it, but I want to be a doctor and it's not too late for me and, yes, I can do it and I know this is a big career change and I'm making great money here with the time I have in. But this is where my heart is at and and I'm, I'm going to, I'm going to try in this lifetime, because nothing beats a failure, but a failure to try. And that was the that was.
Cloé Luv:That was another great story of that Joelle going from finance to to Emmys. If you don't try, you rob yourself of so much opportunity. Guys. If you, if you, if you, if you don't show up and do the work, even if you just have talent, you rob yourself of so much opportunity. Guys, joelle is talented. She got seven interviews and got all seven jobs. That says something about her talent and her personality. And even recognizing that and saying this can translate here Recognizing those jewels within yourself and following them, that's what's going to make your life fulfilled. That is what it means to be committed to success. So I hope you guys enjoyed this episode, got those jewels and I will see you next time. Until then, peace out Clovers.
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