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Mastering Your Mindset: Insights on Perspective, Success, and Financial Growth with Kevin Price
What if your mindset could be the very thing holding you back? Join me, Cloé Luv, on this episode of Committed to Success as we dissect the intricate dance between mindset and perspective. You'll uncover how a seemingly strong mindset might not be as positive as it appears and why extreme outlooks, whether overly optimistic or pessimistic, can be more damaging than you think. Through examining how our surroundings shape our views and the importance of fostering original thoughts, we aim to provide you with a framework for deeper, more authentic understanding.
Our guest, the illustrious Kevin Price, award-winning journalist and host of the Price of Business show, shares his fascinating journey from a politically charged radio format to a business-centric show that seeks to uncover the truths about money and success. Kevin opens up about his family's financial struggles and how they shaped his philosophy on contentment and accepting reality. His insights on contributing to lasting legacies, drawing from Stoic philosophy's concept of loving what is, will inspire you to evaluate your own measures of success.
Finally, we tackle the unique challenges faced by aspiring entrepreneurs transitioning from traditional employment. We dive into mental, emotional, and cultural barriers that often hinder financial growth, and we explore how challenging ingrained beliefs can be transformative. Kevin Price also reveals his exciting upcoming projects, including a daily reader book inspired by Stoic philosophy and his expansion into new markets. This episode is packed with valuable lessons on aligning your values with reality and maintaining a balanced perspective on life. Connect with Kevin through his website and Twitter for more insights.
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Cloé Luv:Hello, my Clovers, and welcome to another episode of Committed to Success with your host, chloe Love. Today we have an amazing guest, kevin Price. That will come on in the second segment. But, as you know, I got to have my Chloe time with you guys and just tell you guys what I'm feeling, what's on my mind, and have some one-on-one conversation with you. So I had a conversation about mindset versus perspective, right. So your mindset people are telling you like hey, you got to have a strong and powerful mind, you got to be able to manifest things, you got to be able to be strong and diligent in what you're putting out there, right, but if your perspective is warped, then your mindset will also be warped. So the word mindset is very tricky because it can mean good or bad, but the way that people use it, they generally think it's just a good thing, like, have you know, get your mindset together, but it's have a positive mindset. But even the word positive can be tricky because positive and negative is influential by your environment, right, nature versus nurture. You can think that something is negative, such as money, rich people, material things, or you could think that that's something positive and either way that you think can make you act in a way that is not natural in the sense of like showing up, living, being happy in your natural presence because of what your idea or what you have attached to that thought. Both of them are mindset and if it goes to extreme on each side, neither one serves you. Perspective is what loops everything together. Perspective is what gives you the notion of what this actually means. It breaks down the definition word by word in a sentence so that you can authentically, naturally and in the best way apply the information, digest it and execute it right.
Cloé Luv:Knowledge is. What real knowledge is is to read something, get information right, to have tools and stuff and to create an original thought from what you read. It's not reciting or memorization. What your knowledge is, and what true knowledge is, is to be able to create original thoughts from things that you've learned and that you've experienced. That is real knowledge. When we talk about what knowledge is, is knowledge is what your knowledge is true to me, right? So if that's knowledge to you, because that's your output of your original thought, does that necessarily mean that it's my knowledge, right?
Cloé Luv:Is knowledge something that is definitive? Is it something that can change? Is it something that is fact, or is it interchangeable, depending on the person that's applying it or that is digesting it or that is putting it out right? These are all things that we got to think about when we're having conversations with people, when we're taking advice from people, when we're giving people advice. Have we done the work to figure out our perspective? And when we figure out that perspective, have we done the work to figure out why our perspective is the way that it is? These are all thought provoking questions.
Cloé Luv:My husband has a saying he rather ask the good question and deal with the bad answer than not know. There's no such thing as a bad answer, only the truth. And the truth will help you navigate the way that you need to in order to exist here freely. So, clovers, I hope that you know you guys pulled some jewels, you guys pulled some information, or that it got your mind going with what perspective versus mindset is. And I'll be right back after this commercial break. Welcome to another episode of Committed to Success. Today we have one of my good friends, kevin Price, who is the host of the Price of Business business talk and radio show, an award-winning journalist, a columnist and an author. Welcome, kevin.
Kevin Price:Good to be with you.
Cloé Luv:How are you feeling today?
Kevin Price:I am doing A-OK. How about you?
Cloé Luv:I'm doing good. You know, it's always a good time when we get together and we get to talk and chat. We always have amazing conversations. So I'm excited about that and I'm happy about that. Good Me too, so tell the people a little bit more about yourself.
Kevin Price:Okay, okay, I've been in media for decades, since the early 90s, and have had this show since 2001. In fact, I was reading an article on the history of podcasting and it said that the term was first used, podcasting, in 2004. My show, this show, the the Price of Business, started in 2001. And it's funny, when you talk to people nowadays you know they're always talking about being on my podcast, my pocket. Well, I'm still in markets, coast to coast. I mean, I'm Washington DC to Washington State, but you know, all of a sudden it's all about the podcast. But we're also podcasted. We're on every single major platform and I worked many years in politics and public policy and my radio show initially was a political show, but around 2001, we changed the name, the format and everything and it became primarily a business show. You can't talk about business without also talking about politics, obviously, so we talk about that subject as well.
Kevin Price:I have a lot of kids, I have grandkids. I live in Houston but I like to travel a lot. I feel like a hostage to COVID, like a lot of other people. Yeah, I look forward to traveling more, but yeah, I enjoy what I do and I have, I think, a unique story with the history of my family of origin with money. Their issues around money profoundly impacted my issues around money and you know it's kind of like the. You know you talk to therapists my wife is a therapist, by the way oh, I didn't know that.
Kevin Price:And yeah, and she likes to say, people become therapists because their lives were messed up and so they were looking for answers for the problems they had and they ended up becoming psychology or, in her case, social work majors. Well, I'm the money guy. I host the business show because I had so much chaos and insanity about money my whole life, going back to my family of orgies looking for answers, and so and unfortunately, people think oh, he's the answer guy. No, I'm the question guy. I'm trying to get answers. But that's a little bit about my story and I think we're going to talk a little bit more about my book at some point.
Kevin Price:Absolutely, absolutely it kind of gives a little context.
Cloé Luv:Yeah, yeah.
Kevin Price:And I love.
Cloé Luv:I always love the points that you make. The best way to go into business is going into it authentically, like trying to solve a problem for yourself. Then you realize there's a market for that, because there are people like you committed to success. This podcast is because the journey is hard, right, people think that you just show up and it's easy. The journey is hard and people need support, they need answers and, yeah, I got questions. So I bring people like yourself up there and other great people that I have to ask those questions and to get that feedback from myself and my audience. So I'm so like really happy that you said that, because you hit the nail right on the head when it comes to why people do what they do and the best way to serve themselves while serving others. What is your definition of success?
Kevin Price:Yeah, I think it has evolved, you know, over time. For most of my stressed out life as an adult it was a lot of he with the most toys wins that old definition it's measured in amount of money. It was measured in amount of money, amount of stuff, accolades, accomplishments, grades, uh, accomplishments, you know, and I'm, I, uh, I'm certainly grateful for the awards I've I've received and and the status of things in my media and the financial awards have been nice as well.
Kevin Price:But honestly, the older I get, the more the idea of success aligns with contentment yes contentment, you know, and I and you said something that was interesting about how hard it is for most people, or a lot of people in business. Mostly is because most people don't want to accept reality, and so they don't want to love what is. That was, uh, the. The roman stoics, the stoic philosophers, used to have this uh, uh, saying amor fatis, which is lat for love what is, and we don't like that. We want to be demigods and try to change things to be according to our you know likes, and instead of that, we should really be about loving what is. What is my reality? What am I dealing with? How can I reframe my thinking? You know, and so you know, and a lot of it is with age.
Kevin Price:I'm at a point now, chronologically, where, you know, I'm more aware of the fact that life is more finite than when I first got in business in my 20s, as a young man, and more and more it's about how do I relax and how do I enjoy life and how do I make contributions that are lasting, which is why my kids and grandkids are really important in that respect, and so success is measured in different ways, but for me it has a lot to do with contentment, and I like the word contentment over happiness. Happiness is very volatile, it's very fleeting. It's here now. I think the pursuit of happiness has made a lot of people miserable and I like to pursue contentment. I like to pursue and make the most of the ride, even if it wasn't the ride I chose.
Cloé Luv:Make the most of the ride, even if it wasn't the ride. I chose that, that that was just so much like great information. And, to be clear, you're not saying that if you're built, if you're built this hand, where you grew up poor, which we'll talk about as well um, that you have to stay poor. That's not what you're saying. You're saying be aware of what the situation is so that you can move forward into making your reality better yeah, yeah and and really challenge what you know.
Kevin Price:So people who are raised in poverty in my case I was raised, I would say low middle class. Low middle class was a better. I never was hungry, never saw utility go off. Uh, my parents were Great Depression children.
Kevin Price:They were raised in the Great Depression, and so I heard constant stories growing up of an existential crisis, and when something did happen that was disrupted financially, they would go to the worst case scenario and plan doom and gloom. And so the story I heard did not match reality. But when you're little and you hear that story constantly, you begin to develop a pair of eyes that sees everything through that catastrophizing. You begin to catastrophize very easily, but I challenge people. You know it isn't just going from poverty to not being poor, it goes from being discontent to being content. Yes, and so there's no amount of money that will pay. There's no amount of money that will pay for contentment. There's no amount of money.
Cloé Luv:That's such a great perspective. Perspective is so important when it comes to that mindset and making those reality changes. I'm so glad that you said that. Tell us what is the price of business and how do you think that affects your brand integrity.
Kevin Price:So the price of business is one of the longest running business shows in the country. It's in its 22nd, it's in its 21st year and it is a multimedia platform. We've got 13 different websites with different focuses. We're about to add additional ones. We collaborate with everyone from Amazon Prime, audible, with Apple Podcasts, you name it. I can't even keep track of the platforms.
Kevin Price:We'll get an email from someone and they say hey why aren't you on this platform Well, sure enough, we are on that platform and why you're not finding it, I'm not sure, because everyone else is, and so it's amazing to me how big of a reach we've been able to have. I think, having a background in politics, my show is much more heavily oriented towards politics, more with time and much more interested in business. And I think maintaining balance I think imbalance, personal imbalance makes us unhappy, and so we do a lot of lifestyle-oriented type programming. We include conversations about charities. We include conversations about leaving a lasting effect, a lasting impact, and really being a more holistic view of success and happiness and not cliché-ish. A more holistic view of success and happiness and not cliche-ish, not infomercials at 2 am that are trying to drive you to hurry up and make a bunch of money because you can't sleep.
Speaker 1:That's why you're up at 2 am watching that infomercial.
Kevin Price:We try to take a different approach and, unlike a lot of the business people out there, we are very interested in small and medium businesses, which is the vast majority of businesses out there. In my opinion, the majority of media out there is really geared towards the megacorporations and the highest offices in business. We have no problem with them. I interview them. I have several interviews with billionaires.
Cloé Luv:Yes, you have.
Kevin Price:From Fortune 500 companies. I like them, but I really feel like we're trying to help those who are small to medium-sized business reach their goals.
Cloé Luv:Yeah, absolutely. I remember my interview with you. It was different from the other interviews that I was doing and I remember us having that conversation after and how much I enjoyed it, because we spoke from a perspective of not selling a product or selling you know how great what we're doing is but real organic conversation about what the process is, what this you know, what the things or my views and my philosophies can do to help people, how it helps people, what those philosophies are, and I really enjoyed it and it was very inspirational. It made me want to do more press because you didn't know it at that time, but I was like overpress at that time. I didn't like it. I was like this is just like I didn't get that and you came right in that nick of time for me to like really feel what it feels like to have a great interview and kind of like a fireside chat way, you know, without it being interviewee. So I really love that and you know it also inspires me like this is how I want to show up as well. I don't want to be high at five, you know, there's nothing wrong with that, but I want to ask those questions. I want to show those parts of people's personality when it comes to business so that it can be relatable. And you know, just like you said, the majority of businesses are small to medium businesses that make up the market. So it's really amazing that you focus on that and that you bring that political aspect in on it. I love, love, love that I also have my MPA, my master's my first master's is in public administration, so I feel like that's why I'm like, so drawn to your brand and I just love everything you do because it aligns well and I love the branding that you guys did on the wordplay of the last name the price of business, kevin Price.
Cloé Luv:I just think that is so cool.
Kevin Price:That was the listener. My show was the Houston Business Show. Back at the time I was only in one market and a listener said, hey, you ought to call your show the Price of Business. And well, that is a good idea. That is so cool.
Cloé Luv:Coming from a music background and always wishing that I could like rap with the double entendres. I appreciated that so much. I thought that was so cool.
Kevin Price:The Duke of Earl. You know that was already taken, so I had to be the price of business. Is this what it came down to? And I really liked your question about integrity, because I think most people in business, particularly small and medium-sized business, the temptation is to be only about your service or about your product, and there's both good size to that. Yeah, we want the best for our customers, and there's also like we don't really see the larger context. Questions like brand integrity, like you asked, really makes again a more holistic view about what your business is about. What values do you have? What do you want to see happen as a result of your, of your, in my case, media? And so I like that question. It's a good one.
Cloé Luv:Thank you. Thank you Speaking of questions. Well, you've inspired me.
Kevin Price:I've already warned you.
Cloé Luv:Inspired you for some new questions as well. So that's how we work, right? But here you go absolutely. But uh, speaking of questions, you always have such great information and perspective and, um, you ask the great questions in life. Give us an overview on your book and, um, you know, making rich and like, how do these like making you rich books work for you or not work for you? And like, what makes yours different? Can Can we get an overview of that?
Kevin Price:Yeah, I think almost all the literature. I've had Robert Kiyosaki, author of Rich Dad, poor Dad, on my show many times. I've had a lot of the. You know really some of the most important people in the new rich space on my program over the years, and they all have one thing in common and there's nothing wrong with it over the years. And they all have one thing in common there's nothing wrong with it. But they all have one thing in common, which is a presumption that the reader can do what their books say they can do. What I mean is that they mentally, emotionally, spiritually can do those things. And that's a big assumption to make.
Kevin Price:And so my book is made for the person who isn't there yet. You know they would love to be able to pick up Rich Dad, poor Dad and go from employee to self-employed to, you know, business owner to investor. You know the chain you want to go. He would love, you know they would love to be able to do that, but they're not capable of doing that yet. And it isn't a question of intelligence, it's a question of upbringing, exposure, their neighborhood, their culture, sometimes even their religion. There's all kinds of factors that undermine their ability to do that. So my book really focuses on the luggage most people carry before they can really launch into business, and so I was raised in a household where I was always told that rich people rip people off. And I was told that, you know, unless you're working, unless there's a direct relationship between your work and your money earned, you are cheating people and you're not behaving properly, which automatically cuts you off from investor or business owner. I mean, it automatically cuts you off. And so you know, 90% of the population makes 10% of the money. It's those people who are self-employed and employed. I'm being stuck in that category because of the language I heard growing up, and so I identified really a couple dozen in the end barriers that we're all carrying, luggage we're all carrying. We go to some of us go to religious, you know churches and other institutions that really praise poverty, you know, and find nobility in poverty. Well, it's hard to be financially successful if you think there's nobility in poverty or the inverse of that being. You're bad because you're not poor. And so we carry all these things and my book identifies those.
Kevin Price:I talk about a lot of my own personal struggles in that area and the things I have had to do to overcome those. And really a great example was Rich Dad, poor Dad. I've read that book several. I mean not Rich Dad, poor Dad, four Hour Work Week I did read Rich Dad, poor Dad several times, but particularly Four Hour Work Week by Tim Ferriss. I read that several times. First time I said this is like pure fiction. Only crazy people do stuff like this, you know. Then I read it the second time and it's like, well, you know, there is some things here that might work.
Kevin Price:And then I began to do journaling and journaling. You know talking about the Stoics again, the Stoics used journaling as a powerful tool of really self-help and meditation and to address weaknesses that they had in themselves. They wrote through those problems. They wrote through those problems. They wrote through those challenges. I began to challenge my assumptions. Those challenges eventually became part of how to make new rich books work for you. And as I wrote through them, I finally got to the point where, well, I'm going to try it again. I'm going to try some of that.
Kevin Price:I went into it had some success and I liked the success, but in the end I said it really didn't meet what I expected it to do. It didn't do what the back book cover said it would do. And then, finally, I tried it after more work, and I said I'm going to take reckless abandonment and I'm going to assume Tim Ferriss is correct and I jumped in it entirely. Ferris is correct and I jumped in it entirely and, as a result, I had reduced my work time from around 60 hours a week to around 10 hours a week. Oh, in about 60 days, and my income went up over 20% my first year. And so it worked. And it was that work, reckless abandonment of assuming he's right and my luggage is wrong. And this book my book, I think will help people test track through that luggage. It will help them assess the assumptions that they have been yeah, yeah, sorry, your internet is uh fading out holding them back.
Kevin Price:I'm very honest, as you hear. Okay, so you hear me now. Um, so, when you, when you got to my blog, it tipped out, but I hear me now.
Cloé Luv:So when you got to my blog, it tipped out, but I hear you now.
Kevin Price:You can hear me now. Sorry about that. Yeah, we've had fun. This has been. The funnest part is trying to communicate with you with our technology, maybe my technology, and so, as you know, I've been very vulnerable and there's something about my shortcomings, my struggles, how hard it's been the fear really fear and loathing around money that I was raised around, and it's something about hearing someone else being honest about their experience. That helps them be honest about their experience, which I think really leads to meeting your financial objectives. And it's still a struggle. I've got all kinds of beliefs that I got. You know, what happens is it's kind of like an attic. The mind is like an attic full of boxes that we're trying to get rid of Boxes about who we are, boxes about what money is, Boxes about success, you know, and as you remove some boxes, you're getting better. Oh, look more boxes. And so you know I'll be removing boxes, I think, until I'm done, which means I'll be done, yeah.
Cloé Luv:Yeah, I truly love that. And I was going to ask you, with all these thinking rich books out there, why did you feel the need to add another one? You know what was that? That factor, that that moment when you were like, no, I got to do this.
Kevin Price:I wasn't finding any that addressed why why those books were not working.
Cloé Luv:Love it.
Kevin Price:So those books, you know, like Tim Ferriss book, I think, has 5 million sold. I guarantee you it didn't produce 5 million millionaires.
Cloé Luv:Yeah.
Kevin Price:I love it.
Cloé Luv:I love that your book is like you know, when you're in college there's a prerequisite that gets you ready to take that course.
Cloé Luv:So your book is that prerequisite that makes you uh, prepare you for the information and how to digest that and how to put that into action, and that's so important. I love that you filled that space because I've said this many times you know people tell you mindset, but what does that mean? You know people tell you to, to, to manifest, but how do I do it? Like they're telling you to take these steps but no one's preparing you for the things of how to do it or what's even blocking you or why. You know you're manifesting certain things because your perspective is warped. So I love that you address that, because I always talk about mindset versus perspective and I feel like when people understand how important perspective is and the things that influence it, then we can start talking about mindset. So I love that your book is the prerequisite, that it addresses those things and equips people with what they need to be able to digest it and to execute them.
Kevin Price:Yeah, I like that. I've called it. You know it's a little presumptuous maybe, but I call it the missing link in new rich literature.
Cloé Luv:Yeah, I don't think it's presumptuous at all. I think it's right on point.
Kevin Price:And I noticed you were talking about manifesting. But you see, and I don't talk about that in this book, I probably will in a future book but we get so hyper positive we're poised for failure. Yeah, yeah, you know, if you're hyped up, thinking I can manifest this or I can positive think my way to success, I guarantee you you're going to be really unhappy with the results. I think of you. Know how many Thomas Edison's are out there today who could have his light bulb project fell over a thousand times before he finally developed a light bulb that could work, that could be sold to consumers, and so that's part of the problem too. It goes back to what I was mentioning earlier about the power of accepting what is and being okay with failure. I love what Robert Kiyosaki has said in my show many times is that, you know, failure just showed me a way how not to do things. That's all all.
Cloé Luv:It's a lesson. Yeah, it's a lesson.
Kevin Price:That's right, and if it becomes too easy, we become entitled by the way, and that's ruinous For a person. Anything that becomes too easy Begins to undermine our character.
Cloé Luv:Hmm, that's a. That's a good point. My husband actually. One of his Favorite quotes is by Dr King the measures of a man I don't want to mess it up Like the greatness of a man isn't measured by. I guess when things are good that's what it means. But in times of you know, some type of I got to. You know what I mean, though.
Kevin Price:Yeah, yeah.
Cloé Luv:I think what.
Kevin Price:I'm familiar with is by Lincoln. Lincoln said that, you know, the true measure of man is not when times are difficult, but when times are easy. That's, the real character of a man isn't when times are difficult, but when times are easy, you know, because when we're difficult we're all humble, at least long enough to get whatever we need, you know. But it's in a time of abundance we begin to think oh, this is all because of me. I did this, you know, and really, again, it goes back. I'm more of a fates.
Kevin Price:I love the fates, love what is In the end hey, it's good right now Doesn't mean I'm exceptional per se. It just means I'm being blessed at this time, I'm fortunate at this time and, oh, things aren't going my way. I'm going to choose not to take it personally, because that's happening to people all over the world at the exact same time. The power of average. We are so again hyper about success and we're exceptional, and those kind of things really set us up for a lot of psychological trauma and drama when things don't go our way, which is often the case, that's sometimes often the case.
Cloé Luv:Yeah, that's another, as usual, great point and a great perspective that I'm sure a lot of people haven't thought about, Even myself. That was very thought provoking for me, you know, because there's all that weight on showing up and being this way, being the first to do this or being the best at that, or, like you said, living in a cottage in the woods and fishing. Every day isn't exceptional, but that could be your sanctuary and people making you feel well like that's not good enough. So I love being content versus being happy, because if you're content you're at ease. But chasing happiness can be so darn hard and it makes you chase perfectionism at the same time, which is almost impossible.
Kevin Price:Yes, Perfectionism is the enemy of good. It's often the enemy of good. And yeah, happiness. See, when we're pursuing happiness and find our circumstances don't make us happy, we begin to think there's something wrong with us, but the reality is that our circumstances just aren't working like we would prefer. Preference doesn't mean it's right. This is my preference. Who made me God to say this is my preference should be what is? That's why contentment is such a low bar, it seems, but how many people are really content?
Cloé Luv:That's a good question. That's a real good question. I want everyone to ask themselves when they hear this and really weigh those things your book is very affordable 99 cents. Why did you make it that price point?
Kevin Price:Because I wanted people to have no excuse for not reading it and also I find if you give things away, we could have simply given it away at that price. If you give something away, people tend to not value it, they tend to discredit it, and so I wanted some cost there for them to make. The decision never intended to make a living off of it, and guess what? I haven't. We really wanted it to be read. We wanted it easily available.
Cloé Luv:That's a good point and that shows people as well. You've made it easy for them to not even make an excuse of why they can't get it. So I really hope that everyone that listens today, that ever hears this podcast, checks that book out, because the type of knowledge, the perspective and the skills that it will give you the way to navigate through these things, to be able to digest and accept what's happening, I don't think you're going to find anywhere else. What other projects do we have to look forward to from Kevin Price?
Kevin Price:Well, we're expanding into three more markers. We're on 16 now. We're about to add three more here, waiting pretty much any day for when that's going to be finalized. We are continuing to do video advancement. We're growing more and more into the video space. We wanted to make it easier for people to find our content. We've been old school podcast, old school radio, for a long time. It's hard to make that transition when that's how you made your living for really 30 years. For me, I did a different show before this, and so we're working heavily in that spot Continue expansions of our newsletter, working on more partnerships.
Kevin Price:And I have another book in the works. It's very early on. It's a 365 daily reader. It's going to be a daily reader type of approach. That's going to address a lot of the things you and I have been talking about today about success, about contentment, about rethinking things.
Kevin Price:I feel like we live in a very hyper-vigilant, incredibly uptight, very too high an expectation culture that, frankly, makes all of us miserable. In a way, it's going to depend a lot on stoic writing. I love the stoics. The stoics are really helpful. The stoics had almost. They abandon or don't have much of a deference towards the idea of average. They are really exceptionally driven, but in a different way, not in a rah-rah way like we see from a lot of business people today. But it's still there and I want people to get away from that. I want to get away from that. I want to encourage people to get away from that because don't want to get away from that, I want to encourage people to get away from that because, again, that's where exhaustion is, that's where not enough is. Most of us walk through life thinking I'm not enough, I'm not enough, I'm not enough.
Kevin Price:We hear that from the TV commercials, from our parents, from our friends and certainly from social media right, I was about to say social media made that times 10 for the new generations.
Kevin Price:Absolutely. I'm glad I can't use any of that stuff no, I'm joking but it and so my approach is really, you know, a kind of a daily guide to reality. Basically Love that we are really. Dr Abraham Lowe wrote a great book in the 30s called Mental Health Through Will Training, or Through Training your Will, rather. It's a phenomenal book and in fact a lot of people think he is the creator of cognitive behavioral therapy. You know, and he said in that book in the 1930s most people are romantic intellectuals. He said in that book in the 1930s most people are romantic intellectuals, they have romantic views of how the world is and they use their intellect to defend those romantic notions they have.
Kevin Price:And he tried to encourage people then to line your values up with reality. Line your values up with reality. And he says try, fail, try, fail, try, succeed, try, fail. But you treat it all as average. Your worth isn't measured by oh, I succeeded. It's measured a lot by your effort. He talks about a will to effort versus a will to comfort. Most of us tend to have a will to comfort. We like to blame younger generations, but frankly I think I'm the world's oldest millennial at times and so you know, comfort has always been a big priority to me. I've really been very fortunate career-wise, considering how much stock I put in the easy way and really it's the harder way that makes us better people and end up having more to show for it, which I eventually learned that, but it took a long time. So that's really what it's going to be about is a comforting. Reality check is what it is on a daily basis.
Cloé Luv:I love that and I love that because I love that it keeps you humble, because, like one of the things I always say, it doesn't matter how much you obtain, the work is in maintaining right. There's so much that goes into that part. And when we say maintaining not just money, not just material things, but things like your honor, your integrity and those things that you hear, that people change, which goes great with your quote. When they start to get money, they're like oh, these people change, they're brand new, you know. And that's because some people think that when people get money, it actually shows who they really are and they were just waiting for that moment to be. But I love the reality check of listen. This can all be taken away from you and what are you outside of that? Like, I love that, that keeping you humble and accountable. I'm excited about that.
Kevin Price:And to give yourself a break Right. It's outside of our control. The Stoics daily ponder death, every day, as a discipline. I don't care if you read Epictetus, seneca, marcus Aurelius, they all wrote in their writings about Every day. Ponder death. Because we came from the soil, we'll go back to the soil, and so when we get wrapped up, and what's happening now are all the toys, I can get it, and at the end, what happens? Those toys, everyone's lining up trying to get them right, and so just be reminded of your mortality. And it's not a negative thing, it's just a reminder that you might want to choose to be content and enjoy what's happening now, rather than you're tripping all the time.
Cloé Luv:I love that. I love that. Tell the people where they can find you, where's the best place to find you or get in contact with you.
Kevin Price:I think priceofbusinesscom is really probably the best place, also at Twitter at Kevin Price Live, which was my first show, was called Kevin Price Live and somehow we just kept the name of the time I went to buy it for that account, but PriceBusinesscom. There's ways of contacting there. But I engage quite a bit at Twitter and so feel free to reach out there as well.
Cloé Luv:Okay, and this brings me to one of my favorite parts of the show. It's a trivia part, so I'm going to ask you three questions. And what resonates to you the most, the most authentically? Give us that answer and tell us why. Okay, so the first one is what is your favorite book, or the book that you would say impacted you the most?
Kevin Price:Oh man, it's so hard. I mean, my greatest love is books. I'm a bibliophile, so it's a hard one. I'm going to try to say one, because I hate it when people name four or five and they've been asked one. But I will have to say it's tempered by where my thinking is right now, and it's probably mental health through training your will by Dr Abraham Lowe. I read it a few years ago, but it's something I find in my toolbox a lot when I get frustrated with reality. You know, we don't want to love what is, we don't like radical acceptance, and those are the things that are making us miserable. We are not God, we're not omniscient, we're not omnipotent, and so Dr Lowe's work reminds me that average is an incredibly peaceful place.
Cloé Luv:Love that, Love that. What is your favorite go-to song when you have to be like uplifted on your on your hard days and you need that song to keep you going?
Kevin Price:That's a good one. I like really positive music. Uh, I like people like, um, uh, elgarol, I like um, bill Withers, um, I, I, I think one that immediately comes to mind is the song by Elgarol Uh, hello, mr Radio, hello, you know, know, uh, everything's fine in my mind, which, by the way, is actually a very stoic statement because, yeah, we, we have that will, that power to reframe things. We don't have to be a victims of a victim of our thoughts but, instead, we can be owners of our thoughts, and that song reinforces that idea.
Kevin Price:I'm fine, fine in my mind. Well, how does that happen? I will that to happen. So I like music that has a King Harvest dancing in the moonlight although I don't dance unless my fans are on fire. But I like music with a positive beat and something uplifting, and so I spend a portion, I spend most of my day listening to music. There's probably six hours a day. I'm listening to music while working, it's in my background, but I purposefully go to music for a part of the day that is specifically uplifting, to just really enjoy, to have fun.
Cloé Luv:I love that. I love that, especially coming from a music production background. I love that. It's such a strong positive reinforcement that people don't utilize as much as they could or the way that you're utilizing it, so I love that. My last question is what is your favorite quote and why?
Kevin Price:Wow, another one, another really tough one.
Cloé Luv:I love this part. I love this part.
Kevin Price:Let's be honest. The first one that came to mind was Solomon, solomon from Proverbs as a man thinketh, so is he. Yes, as a man thinketh, so is he. And so I think I'm a failure. Oh, guess what? You're a failure. Good job there. Yeah, I think I'm successful. Yeah, you know. Quantify that. Show yourself where that is. You know, I think I'm content. That's great. I think I'm miserable. Oh, that's a sad thing to think about yourself, because you're going to make that true. And so, as a man thinketh, so is he. Or a woman, man was anthros. The way the Hebrew was written was anthros, it was mankind. So as a person thinketh, so is he or she.
Cloé Luv:Absolutely. Those are all great choices. I loved every last one of them. Kevin, it was great to have you. As usual, it was great to talk to you. I definitely want you back, especially when that second book hits stores, and thank you for coming, and do you have anything else you want to add before you go? Just feel free to check us out at priceofbusinesscom and Kevin Price live at Twitter. Okay, kevin, thanks for coming and it was nice seeing you again. Talk to you soon Always.
Cloé Luv:Thank you. Okay, my Clovers stay tuned. We're going to go to a quick commercial break and we will be right back. What's up, my Clovers? Welcome back from that short commercial break. I hope you guys enjoyed the show.
Cloé Luv:As I always tell you, I bring people on here that make you think about things in a different way. They invoke provoking thoughts, and they don't just do that, but they give you tools, they give you resources, they give you perspective and I really hope you guys got those jewels today. But if you haven't, let's recap. Kevin spoke about contentness. That was just so refreshing because so many times we as a people, just as human beings, we put so much pressure on ourselves that it's unreal. And you know, having this conversation over and over about making sure that you're not just living, but that you feel alive, that part is so essential being content, having time to say you know what let me not focus on this too long, because we're good and I'm good enough with being good, great, perfect, immaculate. All those things are going to take up too much from this life experience. So I love that he spoke about that and for so many people who may have tried a lot of books and the books didn't work for them. It's not that you can't do these things, it's just that you can't do them yet. So I love that his book addresses that. It's like that prerequisite for school, right, you got to be able to take this, get that information, be equipped with those resources so that now I can show up to this class and I can ace it. So you know, for those of you who thought that, listen, these things don't work for me, that's another perspective that maybe it's not that it didn't work for me, but I didn't prepare myself to do the work, to be able to receive it and execute it.
Cloé Luv:And, last but not least, I love the quote. The quote, I mean the quote was so, so on point because there's so many times that we weigh success in material things and within those material things it makes us feel like we're better than people or that because we don't have those material things, we're not, we don't have the same value as other people. And it's in those times when you really see the true nature of who people are. And I urge you guys, and I challenge you, to reflect on those things about yourself. Make sure that you're showing up here and that you're living, because that's a part of success, that balance.
Cloé Luv:Make sure that you're not packing too much on the plate. And packing too much on the plate doesn't necessarily mean that you have different things. It could be that one thing that you're over stacking. So please, please, please, please, please, digest those jewels. I recapped a lot of them for you, but there were other jewels in there that I want you to find for yourself and until next time Clovers. If you liked the episode, press that like button, follow, subscribe, tell a friend to tell a friend and, uh, peace out.
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